People started carrying bear spray in that area. His eyes were as wide as saucers, and he was taking strides twice as long as his normal gait would produce. Hollow points are better for stopping large game if you are pushing a fairly large bullet, 250 grain and larger, at fairly high velocity 1400 fps +the larger bullet with the higher velocity will give you enough penetration for the hollow point to do its job. I would rather have a .44 mag with a 6 barrel or the 454 Casull but it was a practical upgrade and is light enough with 5 rounds to carry on long hikes. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. bear which turned on him. James A. I dont recall if it ran on Discovery, National Geographic or The History Channel. All good options. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! If you choose bear spray as your only alternative more power to you. Im glad she now carries the Liberty ammo. Ill stick Now I know, what to expect and what to carry. Next If I gotta shoot something that wants to eat me ! Do you have an animal or nature story to share with Newsweek? The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. Even had to qualify with it if you carried it as part of your job duties. A grizzly bear is a formidable foe, having no issue whatsoever proving its dominance over human beings. Crossdraw holster. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 Can you show any proof that we are destroying anything? Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I will keep my 4 Smith and Wesson (K-Frame) Model 66 stainless .357 Combat It is not that you have to out run the bear, you just have to out run the slowest member of your party. @1,3000+ FPS, a 255 gr. My new Ruger Super Blackhawk can handle hot + P 45 colt loads. And this is why Glock 29s and Smith & Wesson 329s exist. I for one have never been bear hunting, always wanted and dreamed of going some day. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. When I fleshed the bear skull I filled a 5 gallon bucket with muscle meat from the skull. His wife left Houston shortly after he passed. They can be found throughout the state apart from the southeastern desert and the Central Valley. But please.no one has mentioned marine flares..is the problem that they do not work or that they are too slow to activate. might be ok for a black bear, but will likely piss off a coastal bear. However, should you have the misfortune of getting between a sow and her cubs, or perhaps meet a cantankerous old boar, the black bear certainly has the equipment to rearrange your anatomy, and even possibly render your birth certificate null and void. Thanx! Nothing prepares you for the 700 gr hardcast, but Im counting on the adrenaline to kick in. Very interesting. Theres no chemical on this planet that will stop a determined grizzley, only a fool would bet his life on an aerosol. He very clearly laid out the steps required and when someone should shoot a bear in self defense.. His commentary may still be out there on the web but a quick search did not turn it up.. Of course because political activists have infiltrated Rangers and such.. But also a few manufacturers that load plus P 45 Colt rounds that are every bit as powerful as the 44 magnum. Again, his Smith and Wesson Model 66 Oaf commented on the case strength, I personally use Starline cases mostly, and have not had a failure yet, however I do only use those cases for 2 heavy loadings, and then relegate them to lesser cowboy loads. FMJ. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. Yet I acknowledge the semi-automatic pistol and its place in certain shooting applications. Although, for me, the closest I want to get to a rattler is a 44 mag snake load, preferably my Judge in .410 7 shot. .38 special have been a huge disappointment for me. A picture shows a lamb and a mountain lion side by side. This account from the Camp Verde Bugle, also says there were two shots. Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. The +P shoots a bit higher than the standard 44mag rounds. Ive chronoed this load at 1325fps, its kickass on Elk. Weve got them here in the Central Mountains of Utah. having confidence in your weapon. The study found that adult male lions were more likely to kill less but bigger prey than females. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . Ivy. Powerful but lower recoil than a .454 Casull, .460 or a .500 S&W. can a 38 special kill a mountain lionohio state income tax. What to do? The .45 Colt has long been my favorite cartridge in the Blackhawk. Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. Most rangers will tell you a $50. Buffalo bore ammo is available, very hard hitting and lethal. With respect to the brownies, I have reached out to the bear guides, residents and hunters for their wisdom and experience on the matter, to find out exactly which sidearms they favor and why. But again, as the species is protected, they were unable to carry out efforts to catch it. You will only have only one chance to prove fluffy wont kill you. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. It is all filled with a bias against firearms.. I like the S&W 460 as well. While Snap decisions in day to day life are a bad idea.. No mention here of my favorite back woods carry gun, a 50 cal Desert Eagle. If you put a 6.25 inch barrel on the glock 20 it is very capable of stopping most large animals. 9. A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. I have two dogs and they said that might provoke the bears. hard cast bullets the 44 Mag. The farmer who owned the lambs also contacted a trapper in hopes that they could do something about the mountain lion. 10 mm. Practice with light loads and carry it with one of Pearces 22k psi heavy loads. Not an expert by any means, just always loved the horribilis in the name, denoting the end result of chance meeting with an angry Grizzly in a dark alley. The 357 mag is much better then the 40S&W as well. @ 1,100+ FPS!! courage1. Size. With bears you keep shooting until it stops moving your survival depends on tossing allot of big, heavy lead very fast. My first handgun was just that at age 18, and now I tote a Blackhawk Hunter in .45, loaded with 325 gr HC with GC and 22 grains of H-110 (Ruger Blackhawk or Thompson Contender ONLY!!!) with my S&W 500 magnum. I dont know anything about bears .but the comment about butchering hogs was funny to me . If you are entering bear inhabited areas, be prepared for the worst situation by having a firearm with sufficient foot-pounds to stop a bear attack. elk For both wilderness/rural vs. urban/metro I cannot I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. However, I dont think that a short barrel revolver will produce such a velocity. With speed loaders in the hands of a competent shooter, the revolver can be reloaded almost as quickly as a pistol. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. You have entered an incorrect email address! The dogs are most often released at the kill site, where they pick up the lion's scent and track the lion until it is cornered or climbs a tree. No thanks. You have been reading to many comic books. An exceedingly interesting question. Of course you can imagine the hysterical reactions that suggestion creates.. Does that mean my woods gun a .44 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel and loaded with 240 grain soft-point bullets is overkill for mountain lions? Mountain Lions have been known to take out horses, cattle, sheep . Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. The one time I did push these cases was to experiment with that claim, and after 5 heavy loadings, the primer pockets were very loose, but no sign of any case separation. Ill try 180s on my next cat. Cork Grahams rig. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? He lives every day with brown bears and has guided to dozens if not hundreds of them. With a 5 inch un-ported barrel, 300 grain hard cast solids, cut an X on the point with a fine hack saw about 1/8 of an inch deep. Mountain lions can kill adult humans along with large mammals. I load them to just over 1,200 fps. Eventually, Ill get around to getting a .460 Rowland kit and chest holster for my 1911 and start taking that instead. As I think about it, I very well might start doing what commenter New Continental Army suggested: carry two guns. Good responses. These people were lucky they didnt get rabies. Hell I wish someone would make a wheel gun for the 416 rem mag. That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. I believe that folks who do their own reloading can increase the powder and velocity of this caliber, but I am reluctant to try the beefed up bullets in a Scandium or polymer framed weapon. 200gr LRN out of my G29 or EAA Elite Match. Bears cannot see as well as they can hear and smell. However many decades ago, I was a PPC competitor. After watching a grizzly tear apart a moose calf in the Tetons I took my s&w .40 to a pawn shop and traded it for a .41 magnum Taurus tracker with a 4 ported barrel, The S&W .500 was too heavy to carry while hiking. I no longer use trick bullets or many jacketed bullets. This has way more energy and velocity ahah a standard loading and the judge and governor probably would not safely shoot those loads. The local police department and/or county sheriffs office can also respond to mountain lion-public safety calls to a 911 operator. I would rather lug a 12 gauge or Marlin guide gun in 45/70 for bear protection. Bye the way thats 6 rounds of death spitting out of the end of that gun ! A study done by US Fish and Wildlife produced the following results. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. He didnt know what kind of weapon was used. # 3. The Hornady Critical Defense .410 loads (slug + 2x .35 cal balls) are rated at 750 feet per second. The first was many years ago when I was in Alaska. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. An interesting side note is that after a bear has been skinned and hung up, if you come upon the scene unexpectedly you would think that you are looking at a dead man. The black bears have been stopped with pistols, rifles, shotguns and once with an ax. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . Derek Wolfe told Tucker Carlson he plans to eat the mountain lion he hunted. Fortunately, I had a spare cap in my pocket. Its a free country Plinker you are free to engage in Prayer, Ritual and Incantations by the light of the moon. Mountain lions are very dangerous animals that are capable of killing creatures larger than themselves. Any bear is a big, tough critter and to stop them you will need to penetrate and break stuff like big bones or skulls. A mountain lion has slaughtered 27 lambs on a farm in Northern California but did not eat a single one. Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. Their large hind legs also make them excellent at sprinting for short distances. Sounds like you have everything covered. Protect your neck, throat, and head. It has a 1 7/8-inch barrel and a five-shot cylinder in the classic snub-nosed configuration and wears a set of Pachmayr grips, which feel better than the standard J-Frame grips in my hands. The only real downside is there is not a good rifle to go with the 10 mm. You dont need a laboratory test to confirm that it was behaving strangely. What? Since Proposition . Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. Im not against revolvers. I asked what type of Rifle he carried. The .45 Colt (L) and .454 Casull (R). .38 Special is great fun for plinking, but I would never rely on it for self defense unless I use the +P Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain out of a 4 which reportedly is at 2000 FPS. Gonna do that with a 45LC or .44 mag? Almost all .460s are semi-autos. Sep 25, 2007. I read an article recently that said you are statistically more likely to survive a bear attack using mace rather than a sidearm. Its got the velocity, but wonder if it would have the penetration? I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. you rig will protect you. No matter what anybody says, Shoemaker got lucky with that 9mm on the bear. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. At the same time, we're trying to be as supportive and helpful to property owners as possible.". rather hungry bears stalking, attacking, and then attempting to eat human beings. Perry can dispatch a coyote with a Ruger LCP you most certainly could do it with .38 Special +p or not and it will also kill a mountain lion. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. 4 5/8 inch barrelpretty comfortable to carry . There were teams of men racing across Alaska. I am playing with a m69 Smith and Wesson 44 mag. Unlike grizzlies, black bears seem to be much less predictable and do not give as many signals huffing, grunting, ears back, etc. I prefer to carry a .460 Roland built on .45 Colt ACP 1911 chassis. My rule of thumb is the minimum is 4-3-1. An interesting piece giving advice from expert typewriter shooters to bear hunters. that will allow the bullets to be seated and crimped .100 further out than factory specs. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. She attacked the 65-pound animal, striking . Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. DRT. When a bear is facing you even if you penetrate the meat and skull, the skull is angled flat so the bullet would probably ricochet rather than penetrate. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. Your .357 magnum should be fine and easier to get off a second shot on target. The California Department of Fish and Wildlife has granted a number of these in the last week, The Los Angeles Times reported. 480 ruger penetrated steel railroad plates by hitting so hard, the steel cracked and shattered. 11-02-2012, 5:06 PM. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This is all interesting to a curious 75 yo ..better for me to stay out of bear country. be utilized for small game hunting: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse. I had a face off not far from lake Iliamna with that combo and would not have traded it for the world. While being careful not to say Bear Spray is the Cats meow.. (something to do with not wanting to have their pants sued off by someone who follows their articles advice and whose relatives sue? killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. When it comes to wheel guns should they be ported? There are videos out there that show this gun/ammo combo going through both sides of the current US Army helmet. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. Get as informed as you can, and make the best choice you can. 39% were found to . Great Man, and he never told a fib while I grew up At 75 I will never know. Loaded with good ammunition, either of these Smith & Wesson .44 Magnums will make excellent bear medicine. I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. I have concerns with shooting the higher pressure .45 LC rounds, like the Buffalo Bore 325 grain load. Ive racoons hunted quite a bit and upon shooting healthy racoons they either crash dead or make as fleet of an escape as the wounds will allow. I took a 29 S&W 6 .44 mag. Answer (1 of 12): There's a lot of variables in play with this question and a 9mm pistol round is NOT a good round to take down a large predator with. Im somewhat challenged with smartphone technology. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. There is no doubt that bigger and more powerful handguns are preferable for hunting but self protection at close range differs greatly from hunting as it requires quick, often multiple hits, from close range while under extreme stress. Even for dispatching He said not really. Magnum revolver for not only armed defense against both two and four legged Jaguars range in size from about 100lbs up to 300lbs, run at speeds of 50 mph, and bite with a bone-crushing 1,500 PSI. think of anything better to own, carry, keep, and have instantly accessible than a good so dont tell me or others you rough it in the Alaskan wilderness because thats bullshit. A long barrel revolver or pistol in very close quarters. Next post: AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, Previous post: Waterfowl Artillery: CZ Swamp Magnum, Your email address will not be published. hall county warrant list; delancey street rehab new mexico; frosty hesson wife brenda; atf agent tased; 3d dirt bike games unblocked; curt doussett birth date; , 2 2020. . They always seem to show up. Feature Articles, Obvious that most folks on this bog dont have a freaking clue what a 1000 + lb. can a 38 special kill a mountain lion. The 357-magnum case is just a bigger capacity shell able to provide much better performance. Worse is the comment on using a .38 Spl in bear country is better then no gun: BS, if your not prepared, dont go! I started reloading and when the bear got to about 12 yards, I dropped my percussion cap in the leaves. based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. There was an Indian woman in Canada out hunting small game for the stew pot with her .22 rifle, when she found herself being hunted by a large grizzly. trunnis goggins wife; can a 38 special kill a mountain lion. They come in 45 Win Mag and 50 AE as well. He makes a grizzly look like a cub. tell me want have you really killed lately. Once at night on a fishing trip in the beartooths we had a grizzly fooling around out side the tent, Out I went with my trusty .475 in one hand and a flashlight in the other. 9mm & 38? This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. That said, I wish someone would come up with a good ballistic gel/trauma plate simulated bear and test out everything from .22 LR to all the Dirty Harry stuff, .44 Mag and up. It is illegal to injure or kill them. I once was a .460 Rowland fan, too, at one time. Were they harder to kill then healthy racoons, no. After a comment like that, Im certain that youre an expert in the art of defensive purse swinging. load of No. Hopefully, this link will work. . A 10-year-old boy was killed by a mountain lion while hiking near Grand Lake in 1997, and an adult runner was killed in Idaho Springs in 1991. If we didnt carry our primary hunting rifle, we carried a shotgun. Mountain lions are apex predators with the ability to kill elk, mule deer, and coyotes with ease - but they aren't usually aggressive toward hikers and their dogs. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 hes ON TOP OF YOU CHOMPING ON YOUR SPINE and THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD ! Sun, Jan 29, 2023. . My only proof of that assertion goes back 17 years when I was unkowingly walking my blind dog very near a collared grizzly sow with two cubs. The most restrictive, California State Proposition 117, passed in 1990, prohibits the killing of any mountain lion except in the case of an animal that poses a direct threat to people, pets, or . I bought Bear Loads in .45 LC and .357 MAG, but they were both hollow points (300 & 180 grains, respectively). Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. Laying out the reasonable course of events leading up to a legitimate use of force against Bears (or Lion) would make it more difficult to prosecute (IMO for political / ideological reasons) citizens who defend themselves against bear (or lion) attacks. Please reply. concealed carry and for the outdoors: hiking, fishing, camping, bird watching, gathering What do you know! Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. At 50yds not much will walk away from a hit with that bullet. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. Great article, even better advise-44 mag super redhawk will be on my side when the opportunity comes my way. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. delivered him from a mortal fate. I just wander where his Pistol and the rigging went to. More than 12,400 mountain lions were killed between 1907 and 1963 and turned in for bounties, according to the Mountain Lion Foundation. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters. The author is right in the close terrain on of the Bitterroors, youre only going to get two shots off and the second one will be point blank. I do reload them hot. Im paraphrasing a bit here, but I once read an article by Bill Jordan about a new Weatherby rifle he was about to take on safari to Africa. feral dogs I do not shoot rabid animals in the head for fear of spreading the rabies virus from the brain, I do not know if this is true or not but thats what Ive been told. A good read but I dont really see the top handguns to carry. Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. Big hand guns buck like a mule, and even though adrenaline is flowing, that big gun will jump and you will have to push hard for that second shot, The .460 Roland doesnt rise as much as the .45 Colt. I know Phil has seen more bears killed than I ever will, but he got lucky. Do you have a rare 5-shot model, or just down to your last five cartridges for the photo shoot? Hard cast lead or perhaps some modern all brass penetrators would probably be better. Defensive purse swinging! while you are on the road system you are in cell phone communications 90% of the time. The group was less than four inches and the ammo was full-power Winchester factory loads so it was full recoil. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. The mountain lion, also called a cougar, is the largest wildcat in North America north of Mexico. The Complicated Truth About Mountain Lion Encroachment. Can a wolf beat a mountain lion? To purchase a sidearm for bear country on GunsAmerica, click here. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. The shop will have something to shoot almost every time regardless of where you are. 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. on this subject is this: self defense/house protection/concealed carry is only half I enjoyed the article. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. You show five rounds with your .38, six rounds with your Model 29, but all of your pictures with the Ruger .45 only show FIVE. Its also probably a one or two shot deal, so firepower is irrelevant. do revolvers. I carry both in a Blackhawk Alaska Guide Holster in the field, and in a Galco leather CCW holster under my belt in town: since being on TV, I learned that stalkers can be just as dangerous a charging bear. . What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. is excellent. ( nothin) lol. I placed a dollar bill next to the track and took a photo. Remember one thing in Bear country. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. Just as with dangerous game rifles, using a cartridge that is too big to allow for proper shot placement isnt a wise idea; shot placement is everything. uh://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1, https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/. I see a lot of Blackhawk advocates. He is a hard-core gun guy and he agrees with me on cartridges, guns and bullets. Before any bear country hunt I practice with it a lot. Despite the firepower, these guys all tried to avoid brown bear encounters. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . May 23, 2022 / by / in . into the Grizzly point blank range killing it. Ive lived and hunted and fished in Alaska since 1993. The cougar was probably at the end of the rage stage, where attacks on almost anything are common. And its usually charging you in a self-defense situation where youre trying to penetrate all that meat, gristle and bone in the way of its vital organs. I just want to compliment you for making an extremely intelligent decision. Automatic option for black bear other than a10mm that youll never carry any other time. Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. Into a wheel gun ! 45acp . Mace or a .45 Colt? I found it on the Internet in a read only document. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. 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